Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
Thank you everyone for your replies! Some great options!Scotty--------Tamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comFuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars...Corvair engine atRoy's Garage waiting to be modified.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Pietenpol-List: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: John Kuhfahl
Finally, I've committed to build a Piet! Not just any pietenpol,however, a ChadWille Aeriel. This is a Biplane adaptation. Some one just threw a wrench atme but I ducked it's OK. I know the purists will probably throw me out of thepieten-polpit, but if it's any consolation, the lower wing is removable, socome on , can I stay? I've got a few ideas I'd like some input on if you're still reading.I'd like to try to source this build using primarily locally sourced materials.Around here(Oregon) that means Doug Fir. I realize the weight penalty(about15%), but there is the strength increase as well. As far as spars go. I'venoticed that some builders have used a routed spar to save considerable weight.Could the same result be obtained using a full depth web with spar caps laminatedto either side top and bottom? For power I plan to use a William Wynn Corvair conversion. I would find itvery helpful if someone could provide performance numbers for a normal aircamperpowered by a 120hp Corvair Thanks. GlenSent from my iPhone________________________________________________________________________________
Finally, I've committed to build a Piet! Not just any pietenpol,however, a ChadWille Aeriel. This is a Biplane adaptation. Some one just threw a wrench atme but I ducked it's OK. I know the purists will probably throw me out of thepieten-polpit, but if it's any consolation, the lower wing is removable, socome on , can I stay? I've got a few ideas I'd like some input on if you're still reading.I'd like to try to source this build using primarily locally sourced materials.Around here(Oregon) that means Doug Fir. I realize the weight penalty(about15%), but there is the strength increase as well. As far as spars go. I'venoticed that some builders have used a routed spar to save considerable weight.Could the same result be obtained using a full depth web with spar caps laminatedto either side top and bottom? For power I plan to use a William Wynn Corvair conversion. I would find itvery helpful if someone could provide performance numbers for a normal aircamperpowered by a 120hp Corvair Thanks. GlenSent from my iPhone________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: "geraldmorrissey"
Good point.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Good point.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Re: Pietenpol-List: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: macz(at)peak.org
You may consider Port Orford cedar. It's source is close to you. Considered bymany to be a great alternative to spruce for spars. Steen Aero used to recommendit for Skybolt spars.CheersGerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:25:00 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
You may consider Port Orford cedar. It's source is close to you. Considered bymany to be a great alternative to spruce for spars. Steen Aero used to recommendit for Skybolt spars.CheersGerryRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:25:00 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
You know, Tools, you could designate one of your tool-a-palooza work sessions asa Ford engine building session and I'll bet you could get a good group of peopleto attend with tools, parts, and skills needed to drag one of your projectModel A engines out onto the table and start turning it into an airplane engine.Start out by posting what you need (head, mag, crank, whatever) and I'llbet you could get a nice engine put together when folks start dragging thingsout of their parts bins and showing up for the event with stuff in the trunksof their cars, or in their pickups, or even in some Piets if they fly in. Callit the Ford version of a Corvair College ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
You know, Tools, you could designate one of your tool-a-palooza work sessions asa Ford engine building session and I'll bet you could get a good group of peopleto attend with tools, parts, and skills needed to drag one of your projectModel A engines out onto the table and start turning it into an airplane engine.Start out by posting what you need (head, mag, crank, whatever) and I'llbet you could get a nice engine put together when folks start dragging thingsout of their parts bins and showing up for the event with stuff in the trunksof their cars, or in their pickups, or even in some Piets if they fly in. Callit the Ford version of a Corvair College ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: "dgaldrich"
What John said. If it was a good thing. Oscar, that's the best part of being at the airport.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
What John said. If it was a good thing. Oscar, that's the best part of being at the airport.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: macz(at)peak.org
To the naysayers, I recommend the Robert Frost poem "The Road Not Taken".Since BHP was arguably the father of EXPERIMENTAL aviation, I think we should allowdivergence and creativity. As Oscar pointed out, there are issues to besolved but half the fun in the process is finding elegant, workable solutionsto problems. Ref the wood issues, since doug fir is stronger and heavier than Sitka, you couldreduce the size of the longerons to 1 x 7/8 and still have the same strengthas 1x1 Sitka. If you really wanted to go avante garde, you could make the sparsfrom a 1/4 inch plywood web and 3/8 x 1 caps on each side top and bottom.I'm even betting that you could use 3/8 x 1/4 capstrips for the ribs. Aeroncaused 1/4 x 1/4 on the Champs and Chiefs so there is some basis for that premise.The road less traveled may have some big potholes but it will eventually get yousomewhere.DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:05:53 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
To the naysayers, I recommend the Robert Frost poem "The Road Not Taken".Since BHP was arguably the father of EXPERIMENTAL aviation, I think we should allowdivergence and creativity. As Oscar pointed out, there are issues to besolved but half the fun in the process is finding elegant, workable solutionsto problems. Ref the wood issues, since doug fir is stronger and heavier than Sitka, you couldreduce the size of the longerons to 1 x 7/8 and still have the same strengthas 1x1 Sitka. If you really wanted to go avante garde, you could make the sparsfrom a 1/4 inch plywood web and 3/8 x 1 caps on each side top and bottom.I'm even betting that you could use 3/8 x 1/4 capstrips for the ribs. Aeroncaused 1/4 x 1/4 on the Champs and Chiefs so there is some basis for that premise.The road less traveled may have some big potholes but it will eventually get yousomewhere.DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:05:53 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
GlenIf you want a light spar use the UK approved Jim Wills spar, it is tested and usedon most UK Pietenpols so has a lot of hours on the design.Basically consists of an 1/8th ply web scarfed from 50" sections with (from memory)1.125" x 0.875" spruce caps on the front spar and 1" x 0.750" spruce capson rear spars. There is various blocking in between the caps for lift struts,tip bows and root brackets to centre section, blocking for jury struts and forrib supports. This is then covered in 1/8th ply but only where any blockingexists.It's quite a lot of work but the finished spars ARE LIGHT, I know as have justbuilt mine!If you want anymore info please email me and a word of caution, do not reducesizes of materials because you think something is stronger in a different specmaterial without a full analysis of the component.RegardsEnglish JohnnyBuilding the 3 piece Wills wing--------The only way is UPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 07:01:17 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
GlenIf you want a light spar use the UK approved Jim Wills spar, it is tested and usedon most UK Pietenpols so has a lot of hours on the design.Basically consists of an 1/8th ply web scarfed from 50" sections with (from memory)1.125" x 0.875" spruce caps on the front spar and 1" x 0.750" spruce capson rear spars. There is various blocking in between the caps for lift struts,tip bows and root brackets to centre section, blocking for jury struts and forrib supports. This is then covered in 1/8th ply but only where any blockingexists.It's quite a lot of work but the finished spars ARE LIGHT, I know as have justbuilt mine!If you want anymore info please email me and a word of caution, do not reducesizes of materials because you think something is stronger in a different specmaterial without a full analysis of the component.RegardsEnglish JohnnyBuilding the 3 piece Wills wing--------The only way is UPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 07:01:17 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
Original Posted By: "Jeff Boatright"
Hello Good Pietple,In the Marine Corps there is the rank of Lance Corporal which is one rank belowCorporal. You are not a lowly Private First Class, but you are not yet a Corporal.You are a Lance Corporal. Several months ago Mike Danford, aka "Tools" onthis forum, got a Captain bid here at Delta, our mutual employer. As he wasno longer just a First Officer but not quite a Captain , I began calling him LanceCaptain Danford whenever I talked to him.Well, Mike is Lance Captain Danford no more. And the pictures shows the four stripesto prove it. Mike is the one on the right. The one with hair and who doesnot (yet) need glasses.Congrats to Mike! By flying the MD88 ( which I lovingly refer to as 'the tube ofpain') he will rapidly exceed his Pietenpol flying hours.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
Hello Good Pietple,In the Marine Corps there is the rank of Lance Corporal which is one rank belowCorporal. You are not a lowly Private First Class, but you are not yet a Corporal.You are a Lance Corporal. Several months ago Mike Danford, aka "Tools" onthis forum, got a Captain bid here at Delta, our mutual employer. As he wasno longer just a First Officer but not quite a Captain , I began calling him LanceCaptain Danford whenever I talked to him.Well, Mike is Lance Captain Danford no more. And the pictures shows the four stripesto prove it. Mike is the one on the right. The one with hair and who doesnot (yet) need glasses.Congrats to Mike! By flying the MD88 ( which I lovingly refer to as 'the tube ofpain') he will rapidly exceed his Pietenpol flying hours.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
Original Posted By: "tkreiner"
Congratulations! Now he can buy the SECOND round for all of us! [Wink]Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
Congratulations! Now he can buy the SECOND round for all of us! [Wink]Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
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Congratulations, Tools! Nice to know the guy in the left seat's been approved!--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Congratulations, Tools! Nice to know the guy in the left seat's been approved!--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
Original Posted By: "tools"
With the recent emails about building an Aerial I thought I would post some pics of several "Barn Finds" out in a little town called Jensen in Eastern Utah at a private airfield. The older Gentleman David Karren owned 7 airplanes among them was a Pietenpol Sky Scout, an Aerial both he built himself and a early Baby Ace. There is also a picture of the Sky Scout on Westcoast piet in the snow. BrianSLC-UT________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
With the recent emails about building an Aerial I thought I would post some pics of several "Barn Finds" out in a little town called Jensen in Eastern Utah at a private airfield. The older Gentleman David Karren owned 7 airplanes among them was a Pietenpol Sky Scout, an Aerial both he built himself and a early Baby Ace. There is also a picture of the Sky Scout on Westcoast piet in the snow. BrianSLC-UT________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Good stuff Mike. That helicopter would have VERY SHORT flights if I was to power it.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Good stuff Mike. That helicopter would have VERY SHORT flights if I was to power it.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Glen,I think it is a great idea. So what if it is slow. So is my Piet.
Biplanesare cool. We need variety and Pietenpol's seem to offer more variety than anyother homebuilt I can think of. Like Mike C says, "They are all snowflakes".I can't wait to see it. Cheers and happy building,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Glen,I think it is a great idea. So what if it is slow. So is my Piet.
Biplanesare cool. We need variety and Pietenpol's seem to offer more variety than anyother homebuilt I can think of. Like Mike C says, "They are all snowflakes".I can't wait to see it. Cheers and happy building,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Beautiful! This may be considered torture! How much down pitch do you have on your engine mount?Thanks,Ray KrauseBuilding Sky ScoutSent from my iPad> On Dec 18, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Barry Davis wrote:> > Dang it was cold last Saturday, but hey.somebody=99s gotta do it.> Barry Davis> NX973BP> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
Beautiful! This may be considered torture! How much down pitch do you have on your engine mount?Thanks,Ray KrauseBuilding Sky ScoutSent from my iPad> On Dec 18, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Barry Davis wrote:> > Dang it was cold last Saturday, but hey.somebody=99s gotta do it.> Barry Davis> NX973BP> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
I'd like to thank everyone for all the positive input. I had considered a StaakenFlitzer. I even went as far as purchasing plans. After studying that shortcoupled, high landing speed little go cart of an airplane, I thought it wasprobably more airplane than I am a pilot.Sent from my iPhone> On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:30 PM, "AircamperN11MS" wrote:> > > Glen,> > I think it is a great idea. So what if it is slow. So is my Piet. Biplanesare cool. We need variety and Pietenpol's seem to offer more variety thanany other homebuilt I can think of. Like Mike C says, "They are all snowflakes".I can't wait to see it. > > Cheers and happy building,> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 894#435894> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
I'd like to thank everyone for all the positive input. I had considered a StaakenFlitzer. I even went as far as purchasing plans. After studying that shortcoupled, high landing speed little go cart of an airplane, I thought it wasprobably more airplane than I am a pilot.Sent from my iPhone> On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:30 PM, "AircamperN11MS" wrote:> > > Glen,> > I think it is a great idea. So what if it is slow. So is my Piet.
Biplanesare cool. We need variety and Pietenpol's seem to offer more variety thanany other homebuilt I can think of. Like Mike C says, "They are all snowflakes".I can't wait to see it. > > Cheers and happy building,> > --------> Scott Liefeld> Flying N11MS since March 1972> Steel Tube> C-85-12> Wire Wheels> Brodhead in 1996> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 894#435894> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laidPietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
I thought it would be a great way to become a colorful ball of rags and stickson the side of the runway. Yes it has to be a biplane. But one that's house broken, not one that's aspring colt. I'll be starting the Aeriel build in January. I'll keep you updated.Thanks again for all the support. (Damn that's a lot of ribs!!) GlenSent from my iPhone> On Dec 21, 2014, at 7:09 PM, glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com wrote:> > I'd like to thank everyone for all the positive input. I had considered a StaakenFlitzer. I even went as far as purchasing plans. After studying that shortcoupled, high landing speed little go cart of an airplane, I thought it wasprobably more airplane than I am a pilot.> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:30 PM, "AircamperN11MS" wrote:>> >> >> Glen,>> >> I think it is a great idea. So what if it is slow. So is my Piet. Biplanesare cool. We need variety and Pietenpol's seem to offer more variety thanany other homebuilt I can think of. Like Mike C says, "They are all snowflakes".I can't wait to see it. >> >> Cheers and happy building,>> >> -------->> Scott Liefeld>> Flying N11MS since March 1972>> Steel Tube>> C-85-12>> Wire Wheels>> Brodhead in 1996>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 894#435894>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
I thought it would be a great way to become a colorful ball of rags and stickson the side of the runway. Yes it has to be a biplane. But one that's house broken, not one that's aspring colt. I'll be starting the Aeriel build in January. I'll keep you updated.Thanks again for all the support. (Damn that's a lot of ribs!!) GlenSent from my iPhone> On Dec 21, 2014, at 7:09 PM, glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com wrote:> > I'd like to thank everyone for all the positive input. I had considered a StaakenFlitzer. I even went as far as purchasing plans. After studying that shortcoupled, high landing speed little go cart of an airplane, I thought it wasprobably more airplane than I am a pilot.> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:30 PM, "AircamperN11MS" wrote:>> >> >> Glen,>> >> I think it is a great idea. So what if it is slow. So is my Piet.
Biplanesare cool. We need variety and Pietenpol's seem to offer more variety thanany other homebuilt I can think of. Like Mike C says, "They are all snowflakes".I can't wait to see it. >> >> Cheers and happy building,>> >> -------->> Scott Liefeld>> Flying N11MS since March 1972>> Steel Tube>> C-85-12>> Wire Wheels>> Brodhead in 1996>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 894#435894>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laidRe: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
That's some fine looking work! Is that a built up spar I see? Tell us about itplease?Sent from my iPhone> On Dec 19, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Ray Krause wrote:> > Hi everyone,> > The last week has been productive and I have my plane all together and rigged.I have the covering material and will start after the New Year. Just a couplepictures, if I can add them.> > > > > The cowling and other metal work is done, also.> > > > > Ray Krause> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
That's some fine looking work! Is that a built up spar I see? Tell us about itplease?Sent from my iPhone> On Dec 19, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Ray Krause wrote:> > Hi everyone,> > The last week has been productive and I have my plane all together and rigged.I have the covering material and will start after the New Year. Just a couplepictures, if I can add them.> > > > > The cowling and other metal work is done, also.> > > > > Ray Krause> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
Oscar. Thank you for your amazingly generous offer of assistance! That would bemost welcome and appreciated. One other reason for this project is the peopleon this list. It truly is a community here which I am pleased and proud tobe a part of. Thanks to all. GlenSent from my iPhone> On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:27 PM, "taildrags" wrote:> > > Glen;> > I have a few pictures of the Ariel project that I bought out of Santa Fe a fewyears ago, and although they don't show much more than a mock-up of the fuselage,gear, and wings, perhaps it might be useful to you to see pictures as youget into your build. I might also have a picture of the ENMA Tigre poweredAriel that was under construction in Missouri awhile back.> > Also, I still have the beautiful set of welded-leg, split-axle spoked-wheel landinggear that was built for it. As near as I can tell, it is exactly the sameas the standard Air Camper gear, same fuselage width, same mounting bracketsand bungee shock struts. I would be happy to lend the gear to you for trialfitting, getting dimensions off of, and (perhaps best of all), getting yourfuselage up off the building table and able to roll around. The fuselage buildshould go quickly for you. I also have an unairworthy Scott 2000 tailwheelthat can go on the back of it to permit you to move it around the hangar or workshop,and you're welcome to that as well. Let me know where on the coast you'relocated. I get up to Salem once a month if that's any help.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 994#435994> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Oscar. Thank you for your amazingly generous offer of assistance! That would bemost welcome and appreciated. One other reason for this project is the peopleon this list. It truly is a community here which I am pleased and proud tobe a part of. Thanks to all. GlenSent from my iPhone> On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:27 PM, "taildrags" wrote:> > > Glen;> > I have a few pictures of the Ariel project that I bought out of Santa Fe a fewyears ago, and although they don't show much more than a mock-up of the fuselage,gear, and wings, perhaps it might be useful to you to see pictures as youget into your build. I might also have a picture of the ENMA Tigre poweredAriel that was under construction in Missouri awhile back.> > Also, I still have the beautiful set of welded-leg, split-axle spoked-wheel landinggear that was built for it. As near as I can tell, it is exactly the sameas the standard Air Camper gear, same fuselage width, same mounting bracketsand bungee shock struts. I would be happy to lend the gear to you for trialfitting, getting dimensions off of, and (perhaps best of all), getting yourfuselage up off the building table and able to roll around. The fuselage buildshould go quickly for you. I also have an unairworthy Scott 2000 tailwheelthat can go on the back of it to permit you to move it around the hangar or workshop,and you're welcome to that as well. Let me know where on the coast you'relocated. I get up to Salem once a month if that's any help.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 994#435994> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Winter Flying!
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Seems like 2-3 degrees. I=99ll have to look that up to be positive. It makes it fly without elevator droop. Also has trim to compensate for fuel burnoff, but it is very seldom used.Barry
Seems like 2-3 degrees. I=99ll have to look that up to be positive. It makes it fly without elevator droop. Also has trim to compensate for fuel burnoff, but it is very seldom used.Barry