Original Posted By: "Steven D. Dortch"
Oscar,Thanks for the info, I have it stored away for near future reference. I hope tobe to that point this fall.Will you be going to Brodhead this year? I'm going with Gary Boothe, we're flyingout on Southweast and camping. But I may be too old for sleeping on the ground!RaySent from my iPad> On Apr 25, 2015, at 10:24 AM, taildrags wrote:> > > Ray;> > The data plates that I sell, like the ones that Brian Amato sells, are pretty generically Pietenpol, unless one is a real nit-picker. You can see both mine (brass) and Brian's (aluminum), along with ordering information, here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/dataplate.html . The smaller plates that I sell are distinctively Air Camper, but I don't think they would be out of place on a Sky Scout.> > Here's the nit-picky stuff about using these plates on a Sky Scout, and thiskind of arcana is almost not even worth mentioning: my plates say "Low And SlowSince 1929", but the Sky Scout was introduced in 1932. That's OK because theplate is referring to B.H. Pietenpol Aircraft as a genre. Brian's plates say"The Original Model 'A' Powered Lightplane", but the Sky Scout was powered bythe Ford Model 'T' engine. Again, the reference is to B.H. Pietenpol Aircraftin general, not the Sky Scout in particular.> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 293#441293> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:33:10 -0500Subject: Pietenpol-List: How it's made Biplane
Pietenpol-List: How it's made Biplane
Re: Pietenpol-List: New to the list
Original Posted By: Jack
Hi PietenpeopleI am the (very) newbie. My name is Semih Oksay and I live in Istanbul, Turkey.Ifell in love with flying machines more then 60 years ago when I was 5. They arestill one of my two loves, the other being my wife.Altough I am new to the list, I started building a Pietenpol six years ago. Youcan follow my progress from the following link:http://www.mykitlog.com/oldbirdBefore asking questions, I started reading through the previous posts, succededto red 12 0ut of 170 pages of headings.I will carry on for a while before I dare to take your valuable times.I am a mechanical engineer. I am trying to build as close to the plans as possible.Materialwise, it is another story.There is no shop in Turkey which sells aircraft parts, or spruce selected and cutto aero specification, so we few here have to learn selecting our own wood(not necessarily spruce all the time) and test it. It is a learning process.For other materials, 4130 plate is not available so I am trying to substitute AISI304 for metal fittings.I am the tech.mgr. of a fatory dealing with stainless steels so AISI 304 is readilyavailable to me. We also have laser cutting and CNC bending facilities anda full machine shop in house. So it is a strange combination of high technicalfacility versus serious shortage of materials and parts.Engine will be a Continental A65-8 from my university years. The engine is probablyolder than I am. After 40+ years of storage, I took it out and it looks prettyclean. Of course, before seriously using it, I have to run further checksand inspections, which I have yet to learn how.Thank you all again for sharing your knowledge, experience and thoughts.Happy landingsSemih Oksay (oldbird)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New to the list
Hi PietenpeopleI am the (very) newbie. My name is Semih Oksay and I live in Istanbul, Turkey.Ifell in love with flying machines more then 60 years ago when I was 5. They arestill one of my two loves, the other being my wife.Altough I am new to the list, I started building a Pietenpol six years ago. Youcan follow my progress from the following link:http://www.mykitlog.com/oldbirdBefore asking questions, I started reading through the previous posts, succededto red 12 0ut of 170 pages of headings.I will carry on for a while before I dare to take your valuable times.I am a mechanical engineer. I am trying to build as close to the plans as possible.Materialwise, it is another story.There is no shop in Turkey which sells aircraft parts, or spruce selected and cutto aero specification, so we few here have to learn selecting our own wood(not necessarily spruce all the time) and test it. It is a learning process.For other materials, 4130 plate is not available so I am trying to substitute AISI304 for metal fittings.I am the tech.mgr. of a fatory dealing with stainless steels so AISI 304 is readilyavailable to me. We also have laser cutting and CNC bending facilities anda full machine shop in house. So it is a strange combination of high technicalfacility versus serious shortage of materials and parts.Engine will be a Continental A65-8 from my university years. The engine is probablyolder than I am. After 40+ years of storage, I took it out and it looks prettyclean. Of course, before seriously using it, I have to run further checksand inspections, which I have yet to learn how.Thank you all again for sharing your knowledge, experience and thoughts.Happy landingsSemih Oksay (oldbird)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New to the list
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Semih welcome to the group! Everyone of your pictures detail your expert craftsmanship.I look forward to following your progress.Take care!Sent from my iPadJack Textor> On Apr 28, 2015, at 1:44 AM, "oldbird" wrote:> > > Hi Pietenpeople> > I am the (very) newbie. My name is Semih Oksay and I live in Istanbul, Turkey.Ifell in love with flying machines more then 60 years ago when I was 5. Theyare still one of my two loves, the other being my wife.> > Altough I am new to the list, I started building a Pietenpol six years ago. Youcan follow my progress from the following link:> > http://www.mykitlog.com/oldbird> > Before asking questions, I started reading through the previous posts, succededto red 12 0ut of 170 pages of headings.> I will carry on for a while before I dare to take your valuable times.> > I am a mechanical engineer. I am trying to build as close to the plans as possible.Materialwise, it is another story.> There is no shop in Turkey which sells aircraft parts, or spruce selected andcut to aero specification, so we few here have to learn selecting our own wood(not necessarily spruce all the time) and test it. It is a learning process.> For other materials, 4130 plate is not available so I am trying to substituteAISI 304 for metal fittings.> > I am the tech.mgr. of a fatory dealing with stainless steels so AISI 304 is readilyavailable to me. We also have laser cutting and CNC bending facilitiesand a full machine shop in house. So it is a strange combination of high technical> facility versus serious shortage of materials and parts.> > Engine will be a Continental A65-8 from my university years. The engine is probablyolder than I am. After 40+ years of storage, I took it out and it lookspretty clean. Of course, before seriously using it, I have to run further checks> and inspections, which I have yet to learn how.> > Thank you all again for sharing your knowledge, experience and thoughts.> > Happy landings> Semih Oksay (oldbird)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 427#441427> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Semih welcome to the group! Everyone of your pictures detail your expert craftsmanship.I look forward to following your progress.Take care!Sent from my iPadJack Textor> On Apr 28, 2015, at 1:44 AM, "oldbird" wrote:> > > Hi Pietenpeople> > I am the (very) newbie. My name is Semih Oksay and I live in Istanbul, Turkey.Ifell in love with flying machines more then 60 years ago when I was 5. Theyare still one of my two loves, the other being my wife.> > Altough I am new to the list, I started building a Pietenpol six years ago. Youcan follow my progress from the following link:> > http://www.mykitlog.com/oldbird> > Before asking questions, I started reading through the previous posts, succededto red 12 0ut of 170 pages of headings.> I will carry on for a while before I dare to take your valuable times.> > I am a mechanical engineer. I am trying to build as close to the plans as possible.Materialwise, it is another story.> There is no shop in Turkey which sells aircraft parts, or spruce selected andcut to aero specification, so we few here have to learn selecting our own wood(not necessarily spruce all the time) and test it. It is a learning process.> For other materials, 4130 plate is not available so I am trying to substituteAISI 304 for metal fittings.> > I am the tech.mgr. of a fatory dealing with stainless steels so AISI 304 is readilyavailable to me. We also have laser cutting and CNC bending facilitiesand a full machine shop in house. So it is a strange combination of high technical> facility versus serious shortage of materials and parts.> > Engine will be a Continental A65-8 from my university years. The engine is probablyolder than I am. After 40+ years of storage, I took it out and it lookspretty clean. Of course, before seriously using it, I have to run further checks> and inspections, which I have yet to learn how.> > Thank you all again for sharing your knowledge, experience and thoughts.> > Happy landings> Semih Oksay (oldbird)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 427#441427> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: How it's made Biplane
Original Posted By: "womenfly2"
Interestingly, AOPA feature writer Barry Schiff wrote a piece on "The ImpossibleTurn" a few years ago in AOPA Pilot magazine and gave it a lot of credibilitywith the caveat that it requires regular practice. You can find a summary ofthe maneuver, and how to practice it, here:http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All- ... possibleIn real life, KR builder and pilot Mark Langford has practiced this maneuver tillit has become almost second nature to him. He has had to use it several times,successfully, without loss of life or airplane. If one has a familiar airplane,plenty of time, and an uncontrolled (preferably remote) airport at whichto practice the maneuver, it is a highly recommended exercise and will alsoimprove other flying skills. I need to do this myself!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How it's made Biplane
Interestingly, AOPA feature writer Barry Schiff wrote a piece on "The ImpossibleTurn" a few years ago in AOPA Pilot magazine and gave it a lot of credibilitywith the caveat that it requires regular practice. You can find a summary ofthe maneuver, and how to practice it, here:http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All- ... possibleIn real life, KR builder and pilot Mark Langford has practiced this maneuver tillit has become almost second nature to him. He has had to use it several times,successfully, without loss of life or airplane. If one has a familiar airplane,plenty of time, and an uncontrolled (preferably remote) airport at whichto practice the maneuver, it is a highly recommended exercise and will alsoimprove other flying skills. I need to do this myself!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How it's made Biplane
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How it's made Biplane
Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
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Pietenpol-List: Re: How it's made Biplane
Original Posted By: "oldbird"
Wow! I must be doing something wrong. My Aerial is taking way longer than that.I guess I should have bought a quick build kit. Thanks WF2 GlenSent from my iPhone> On May 1, 2015, at 10:57 AM, "womenfly2" wrote:> > > > > WF2> > --------> > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 586#441586> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How it's made Biplane
Wow! I must be doing something wrong. My Aerial is taking way longer than that.I guess I should have bought a quick build kit. Thanks WF2 GlenSent from my iPhone> On May 1, 2015, at 10:57 AM, "womenfly2" wrote:> > > > > WF2> > --------> > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 586#441586> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How it's made Biplane
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How it's made Biplane
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
I searched thru the previous posts and learned a lot. My question is: can anyonehelp with wood strut cross sections and material?The reason is twofold:1. Streamlined seamless 4130 (or anything else) is not available in Tr. Shippingfrom States is more expensive than the material itself (length issue).2. I like working with wood an wood struts look really cool, at least to my eyes.Mr. Gary Boothe's Corvair Piet has what I am after.Does NX380MB have deeper fuselage by the way?Semih (in Istanbul)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 09:44:16 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How it's made Biplane
I searched thru the previous posts and learned a lot. My question is: can anyonehelp with wood strut cross sections and material?The reason is twofold:1. Streamlined seamless 4130 (or anything else) is not available in Tr. Shippingfrom States is more expensive than the material itself (length issue).2. I like working with wood an wood struts look really cool, at least to my eyes.Mr. Gary Boothe's Corvair Piet has what I am after.Does NX380MB have deeper fuselage by the way?Semih (in Istanbul)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 09:44:16 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How it's made Biplane